Gutter — half-round, quarter-round and box
The nominal size is the UNFOLDED WIDTH according to DS/EN 612, not a diameter. The figure calculates the bend radius backwards.
How true is the flat pattern?
The surface is developable and the flat pattern is solved in closed form. Cut the part to the drawing and it fits — the whole uncertainty sits in the K-factor, which belongs to the material and the machine, not to the geometry.
Dimensions are entered as: Outside dimensions. The flat pattern itself is always computed on the neutral fibre — at Ø800 in 3 mm sheet the difference between the inside and the outside dimension is 18.8 mm of developed width, and then the seam does not meet.
The vocabulary of bending
The words and formulas the trade uses for a flat pattern. The symbols are the same throughout Discebo: α is the bend angle in degrees, R the inside bend radius, t the sheet thickness and K the K-factor — all in millimetres.
- Flat pattern (development)
- The part's surface laid out flat as one continuous cutting outline — the way the sheet looks BEFORE it is bent or rolled. Only a developable surface can be unfolded exactly; a doubly curved surface cannot be laid flat without stretching the material.
- Flat length
- The flat length the part must be cut to so the dimensions come out right once it is bent. It is either the sum of the outside dimensions minus the bend deductions, or the sum of the flat legs plus the bend allowances — both routes must give the same number.L = Σ(udvendige mål) − Σ(BD) = Σ(flade ben) + Σ(BA)
- Bend allowance
- The length of material that sits in the bend itself, measured along the neutral fibre. The bend allowance is always positive and is added to the flat legs.BA = (π/180) · α · (R + K · t)
- Bend deduction
- The amount subtracted from the sum of the outside dimensions, because the two outside dimensions between them count the corner twice. Here the bend deduction is taken as POSITIVE and subtracted; DIN 6935 writes the same quantity as the compensation value v with the opposite sign.BD = 2 · OSSB − BA
- Outside setback
- The distance from the theoretical outside corner point in to where the bend starts. Above 90°, tan(α/2) is clamped to at most 1 per DIN 6935, so the number does not explode towards 180°.OSSB = tan(α/2) · (R + t)
- Compensation value v to DIN 6935
- The standard's own way of writing the same corner loss: the flat length is a + b + v, where v is negative. Our bend deduction is therefore the same quantity with the opposite sign — never flip one without the other.L = a + b + v ⇒ v = −BD
- K-factor
- Where the neutral fibre sits in the sheet, given as a fraction of the sheet thickness. DIN 6935 writes the correction factor k, which applies to the neutral line in the form (R + t·k/2); the American CAD convention writes (R + K·t), so K = k/2.k = 0,65 + 0,5 · log₁₀(R/t), k ≤ 1,0 ⇒ K = k/2
- Neutral fibre
- The layer in the sheet that is neither stretched nor compressed when the part is bent. The flat pattern is always computed on the neutral fibre — which is why it matters whether the drawing's dimensions are inside or outside.
- Bend angle
- The angle the material is turned through, not the angle between the legs. The bend angle is 180° minus the included angle, so a square corner is 90° and a seam fold is 180°.α = 180° − åbningsvinklen
- Inside bend radius
- The radius on the inside of the bend. It is set by the tooling and the material, not by the drawing — too small a radius cracks the part in the outer fibre.
- Sheet thickness
- The thickness of the material. It enters every single bend allowance, so sheet delivered 0.2 mm thicker than ordered shifts the flat length at every bend.
- Fold line
- The line on the flat pattern where the part is to be bent. It is drawn but never cut through — in a laser file it therefore sits on its own layer.
- Test bend
- A strip of known raw length, bent in the material and the tooling that production will use. Measure the two outside legs afterwards and the bend deduction and K-factor can be worked back. The machine's own measured bend table beats any table.BD_målt = (A + B) − L₀
DIN 6935 covers only cold bending of flat products in structural steel. Stainless, aluminium, copper, brass and titanium zinc are not included — there the formulas are an extrapolation, and a test bend in the actual material settles it.
The dimensions you type
33 fields. The starting values belong to the figure itself — they live in one place in the code, so the tool, the share link and the smoke test can never disagree about what «default» means.
| Dimension in mm | Interval | Standard | Explanation |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nominal gutter size (DS/EN 612)stoerrelse | 200 mm developed width · 250 mm developed width · 280 mm developed width · 333 mm developed width · 400 mm developed width · 500 mm developed width · Free strip width | 333 mm developed width | The figure is the sheet's DEVELOPED WIDTH — not a diameter and not an opening. The tool calculates the arc's radius backwards from it. Suppliers' gutter numbers do not cover the same thing from firm to firm; order in mm. |
| Free strip width (developed sheet)conditionalbaandbredde | 150–800 mm · step size 1 | 333 mm | Titanium zinc and copper are bought in strip. The width cannot be guessed — it is on the data sheet. |
| Gutter profileprofil | Half-round · Quarter-round · Box gutter (square) | Half-round | English/ogee is deliberately OMITTED: the profile's two opposing radii are a supplier profile, and the tool does not guess at a cross-section it cannot source. |
| Gutter outside depthconditionaldybde | 40–250 mm · step size 5 | 100 mm | Measured from the top of the front edge down to the outside of the bottom. On a half-round gutter the depth is a RESULT of the developed width and is therefore not given here. |
| Front edge (the free edge outwards)forkant | Vulst (rullet kant) · Hem (lukket ombuk) · Skarp klippekant | Vulst (rullet kant) | The bead stiffens the front edge and is what the gutter bracket's hook grips. |
| Bead diameterconditionalvulst_d | 8–20 mm · step size 1 | 12 mm | The edge is rolled 286° round the wire. The rule of thumb 2.5·d is exactly that arc length. |
| Front edge hemconditionalhem_for | 10–30 mm · step size 1 | 15 mm | — |
| Rear edge (the free edge towards the roof)bagkant | Hem (lukket ombuk) · Skarp klippekant | Hem (lukket ombuk) | — |
| Rear edge hemconditionalhem_bag | 10–30 mm · step size 1 | 15 mm | — |
| Rear edge higher than front edgeoverhoejde | 0–40 mm · step size 1 | 15 mm | 10–20 mm is the rule: in the event of overload the gutter must overflow OVER THE FRONT EDGE, not over the back edge and down behind the fascia and facade. |
| Goods thicknesst | 0,6–1 mm · step size 0,05 | 0,7 mm | — |
| Sheet materialblikmateriale | Titanium zinc (roofing zinc) · Copper · Aluminum · Steel with plastisol (hot-dip galvanised core) | Titanium zinc (roofing zinc) | Controls thermal expansion, contact corrosion, minimum bend radius and the material's own constraints. |
| Gutter length (cut length)laengde | 500–6.000 mm · step size 50 | 2.000 mm | The overlap at the joint is PART of this dimension — it is not added on top. |
| Run to be coveredstraekning_m | 1–200 m · step size 0,5 | 12 m | — |
| Overlap per jointoverlaeg | 0–150 mm · step size 5 | 30 mm | — |
| Joint along the runsamling | Loddet overlæg (fast) · Nittet overlæg med fugemasse (fast) · Klipset samlestykke (glidende) · Ekspansionsstykke (optager bevægelsen) | Loddet overlæg (fast) | — |
| Connecting piece lengthconditionalsamlestykke_l | 100–400 mm · step size 10 | 200 mm | — |
| Longitudinal fall towards the outletfald_promille | 0–10 ‰ · step size 0,5 | 3 ‰ | 2–4 ‰ is common workshop practice, not a standard requirement the tool can cite. 3 ‰ is 3 mm per metre. |
| Number of identical gutters (roof sides)antal_render | 1–20 stk · step size 1 | 1 stk | — |
| End headsendebunde | Ingen — renden er åben i begge ender · Kun i venstre ende · Kun i højre ende · I begge ender | I begge ender | — |
| Outlet spout in the gutter bottomudloeb | on / off | on | — |
| Outlet outside diameterconditionaludloeb_d | 50–150 mm · step size 5 | 75 mm | The hole in the arc becomes WIDER than the diameter: s_max = R·arcsin(a/R). |
| Outlet position along the gutter lengthconditionaludloeb_pos_pct | 5–95 % · step size 5 | 50 % | — |
| Catchment (roof area the gutter drains)drivertagareal_m2 | 5–2.000 m² · step size 5 | 120 m² | The horizontally projected area. Used for the DS 432 flow q = A·φ·i — not for the gutter's shape. |
| Runoff coefficient φafloebskoefficient | Tætte belægninger inkl. tagflader (tag, asfalt, beton) — 1,0 · Belægning med grus-/græsfuger (fliser) — 0,8 · Grusbelægning — 0,6 · Græs / have — 0,1 | Tætte belægninger inkl. tagflader (tag, asfalt, beton) — 1,0 | — |
| Material UPSTREAM in the drainageopstroems | Ingenting ovenfor · Kobber (tag, inddækning, rygning) · Bly · Titanium zinc · Aluminum · Stainless steel · Ubehandlet stål · Tagpap / bitumen | Ingenting ovenfor | Copper dripping into a zinc gutter eats through it — first at the outlet. |
| Working temperature when rolling and bendingarbejdstemperatur | -10–40 °C · step size 1 | 15 °C | Titanium zinc must not be worked below approx. 10 °C. |
Advanced fields
Hidden by default — they have a sensible default, and most parts do not need them.
| Dimension in mm | Interval | Standard | Explanation |
|---|---|---|---|
| Straight section above the arc (front edge)forkant_lige | 2–40 mm · step size 1 | 5 mm | The section just before the bead is rolled. It MUST be greater than 0 — a leg that disappears into its own bend zone cannot be bent. |
| Tool radius for hem and corners (0 = the material's minimum)bukkeradius | 0–10 mm · step size 0,1 | 0 mm | The arc's radius is something ENTIRELY different — it is calculated from the developed width and cannot be set here. |
| End head flangeconditionalflange_mm | 5–20 mm · step size 1 | 10 mm | The flange is bent 90° into the gutter and soldered. The curved part requires V-notches — v = f·p/ρ. |
| Spout clearance below the gutterconditionaludloeb_h | 30–150 mm · step size 5 | 60 mm | — |
| Rainfall intensity inregnintensitet | 0,005–0,05 l/(s·m²) · step size 0,001 | 0,014 l/(s·m²) | GUIDANCE ONLY. The correct figure comes from the local municipal rainfall series multiplied by the climate factor — not from the tool. |
| Temperature range for thermal expansiontemperaturspaend | 40–120 K · step size 5 | 100 K | −20 → +80 °C surface temperature = 100 K. |
Ready-made presets
A preset sets every dimension at once. The name is often the word the part goes by in the workshop — the library's search knows them all.
Half-round zinc gutter 333 mm
333 mm developed sheet ⇒ R = 83 mm internal, i.e. 166 mm opening — not Ø333
Also known as: tagrende · zinkrende · halvrund rende · 333 · hængerende
Half-round 280 mm — detached house
The common house gutter: 280 mm sheet ⇒ R = 66 mm and 132 mm opening
Also known as: parcelhusrende · 280 · husrende · almindelig tagrende · zinkrende 280
Half-round 250 mm — carport and outbuilding
Small gutter for short runs: 250 mm sheet ⇒ R = 57 mm
Also known as: carportrende · udhusrende · 250 · lille tagrende · garagerende
Half-round 400 mm — large roof
400 mm sheet ⇒ R = 104 mm and 209 mm opening · Ø110 downpipe
Also known as: stor tagrende · 400 · landbrugsrende · hallerende · bred rende
Half-round 500 mm — industrial hall
Largest DS/EN 612 range: 500 mm sheet ⇒ R = 136 mm at 1.0 mm thickness
Also known as: industrirende · 500 · hallerende · stålrende · stor rende
Half-round copper gutter 333 mm
Copper above zinc is harmless — zinc above copper is not. The copper gutter must have copper downpipes
Also known as: kobberrende · kobber tagrende · 333 kobber · rødblik · kobbergutter
Box gutter 400 mm (square gutter)
Square cross-section: straight front wall, flat bottom and straight back wall — the bottom width is calculated from the sheet
Also known as: kasserende · firkantet tagrende · kasserende rende · box gutter · kanttagrende
Quarter-round 280 mm in aluminium
Quarter circle at the front, flat bottom, straight back wall — the bottom width follows from the 280 mm sheet
Also known as: kvartrund · kvartrund rende · alurende · aluminiumsrende · 280 alu
Free strip width 450 mm
When the strip does not follow the DS/EN 612 series: enter the data sheet's width and get the radius backwards
Also known as: free strip width · specialrende · 450 · coilbredde · efter datablad
Reservation
Read them before the part is cut. They are here because they cannot be calculated away — not as legal text, but as craft.
- The development is EXACT — a chain has no geometric approximation. The entire uncertainty lies in the K-factor, and that belongs to the material, not the geometry. Always make a trial bend on the batch that will be used.
- DIN 6935 covers ONLY structural steel. For titanium zinc, copper and aluminium the K-factor is an extrapolation — the roller's and the seaming machine's own figures take precedence over any formula.
- THE GUTTER'S HYDRAULIC CAPACITY IS NOT CALCULATED HERE. The l/s figure is the design rainwater flow in accordance with DS 432 (q = A·φ·i) — that is, what the roof delivers, not what the gutter can take. The capacity in accordance with EN 12056-3 depends on fall, filling degree, inlet conditions and the number of outlets and must be looked up.
- The rainfall intensity is GUIDANCE ONLY and not a fixed DS 432:2020 standard value. The actual design rainfall depends on the local municipal rainfall series multiplied by the climate factor.
- Gutter brackets, hangers, spacing between fixings, snow load and wind load are NOT covered. A gutter filled with water and snow is a load-bearing suspension and must be sized in accordance with EN 1991-1-3/-1-4 and the supplier's instructions.
- The expansion spacing of 8–15 m applies to titanium zinc and is guidance-only workshop practice. It depends on profile, fixing and exposure and must be verified against the supplier's installation instructions.
- The English/ogee profile is deliberately OMITTED: its two opposing radii are a supplier profile, and the tool does not guess at a cross-section it cannot source.
- The end head's flange is cut into the cutting pattern with V-notches. The flange is shrunk during bending, and shrinking is a CRAFT operation — the number of notches is a suggestion, not a definitive answer.
Onward from here
- Roof drainage (rainwater) Plumbing
- Developed length in bending Metal fabricator
- Cylinder – sheet length for the body Metal worker
- Sheet development with K-factor Technical designer
- Clinch nail – spacing and edge distance Metal worker
- The box unfolder A whole box unfolded with dimensions on every side — the same bending maths.
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